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Otsikko: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Tammikuu 31, 2016, 22:36:54
This is early call for teams to join tournament this springtime. Exact game dates are not decided yet, but tournament will be held during March and April 2016.

We will follow roughly the rules that are familiar from previous tournaments. I am not the contact person of the tournament, but I am the highest judge and dictator once again.

More information is given soon. You can start gathering 4+2 national teams immediately!
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Priit - Helmikuu 18, 2016, 22:40:22
(https://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/animated-flag-gif/gifs/Estonia_240-animated-flag-gifs.gif)

Team Estonia

Clothec color №35 (Estonia)

Ruudi (C)
[email protected]
ISAENN
Kalanaiseke

Substitues:

Kebly
Rauno

Contact:
e-mail: [email protected]
skype: ruudi121
www.kalale.ee
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: yeahbee swe - Helmikuu 22, 2016, 07:50:42
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Team Sweden

Dresscode: 24 [ Sweden ]

Yeahbee ©
Bengan
Toxim*
Assassin

Substitutes

Mogge
DevilFish

Contact
E-Mail: [email protected]
Skype: yeahbeeswe
www.team-thor.com
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Helmikuu 22, 2016, 08:43:33
We are still awaiting for volunteer  host/organizer for this tournament.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Helmikuu 24, 2016, 12:47:43
On behalf of Team Norway...

(http://flagshop.co.za/img/cms/Flags%20Gif/Norway.gif)

Team Norway
Vibecke (C),
Rolfern (A),
Tone,
Jwnsdenon
Reserves : HarleyLiz,
Steinar G.

Contackt is:
[email protected]


Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Lucas Vierens - Helmikuu 24, 2016, 23:14:44
Netherlands

Clothes color nr 3

Lucas (C)
Thomas
Roan
Niels

Substitutes
Joshua
Mike

Contact
E-Mail: [email protected]
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Od [MNG] - Helmikuu 25, 2016, 03:13:50
                                (http://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/animated-flag-gif/gifs/Mongolia_240-animated-flag-gifs.gif)
   Mongolian National Team [MNG]



1. Tuvshuu_MGL [MNG] (C)  [email protected]
2. nasaa mgl [MNG] (A)   [email protected]
3. Tumur [MNG]
4. Aoron [MNG]
----------------------
5. Babuur [MNG]
6. zulaa [MNG]


Clothes color  №21



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Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Helmikuu 28, 2016, 00:48:10
Ok.. let's open the registeration. Let the deadline for this be 15th of March 23.59 time of Finland.

I hope that I have hosts and helping hands recruited before that.

...and Welcome, The Netherlands to the tournament! New players are always appreciated! :)
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: mariukas - Helmikuu 28, 2016, 01:12:52
(http://grovit.cz/ZABAVNY_majka57/GIF/vlajky_sveta/Lithuania.gif)

Team Lithuania

Clothes color 32

1.Vip (C)
2.Terminator (A)
3.Alex68
4.Lydys71
Rezerve:
5.Privet
6.Dafury

Email. [email protected]
Facebook you have Marius Sukackas
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Helmikuu 28, 2016, 19:17:33
We have now hosts and organizers for the tournament. I will soon update rules and dates of the tournament!

Please continue signing in and spread the word to the players from different forums.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: kuku - Maaliskuu 02, 2016, 18:43:57
Team Latvia

Clothes 28

binde (C)
Kingfisher
prusis
KU_KU

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Dainelis
Arnis
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Cousen - Maaliskuu 07, 2016, 22:14:27
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Team Ukraine

Clothes № 29

1sergey ©
Cousen
jonson
Raven

Substitutes

SergUKR
bnn


Contact
E-Mail: [email protected]
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: kuku - Maaliskuu 09, 2016, 22:17:41
Team Latvia

Clothes 28

binde (C)
Kingfisher
prusis
KU_KU

-----------

Dainelis
Arnis


Contact:  [email protected]
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Zoom - Maaliskuu 11, 2016, 20:27:45
Belarus

(http://s020.radikal.ru/i712/1412/fe/93acc3c4caa6.gif) (http://"http://www.radikal.ru")

Zoom ©
Zel (A)
Take
Vova Minsk (BLR)
*************
Krepok
ys


e-mail: [email protected]
Skype: zoom11110
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Maaliskuu 13, 2016, 21:07:19
Deadline for registration is soon here, so PLEASE hurry!
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Sniper. - Maaliskuu 14, 2016, 09:55:25
(http://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/animated-flag-gif/gifs/Russia_240-animated-flag-gifs.gif)

Russia

Clothes color  №26


1. Mars ©
2. *NORVIK*
3. Vitalya05
4. serega(66 e-burg)
----------------------
5. kosyk-rus
6. PSM53

Contakt:

e-mail: [email protected]
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Aspius - Maaliskuu 14, 2016, 12:40:24

(http://www.propilkki.pl/aspius/inne/flagapolska.png)

Poland Team [PL]

jacek(cherr) ©
Laczek (A)
Barbossa
Miro

Substitutes:
Menel_21
Slawek

Clothes Color  №33 (Poland)

Contact person:
Aspius - [email protected]   
www.propilkki.pl

Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Maaliskuu 15, 2016, 21:17:39
RULES of WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP OF PROPILKKI

1)  This thread is where the players of the teams are named. Players of the teams are those, who are given to me separately (also in this thread). Captains are ”contact persons” or some named non-member of team (translation problems etc). Each team has 4 players and 2 substitutes. If a lower amount of players are available, when game starts, team must play by using only earlier named list of players.

2) Captains/contact persons are informed about time-schedule and IP-address and password of the games. They have to share this information with their team. USE PRIVATE MESSAGES OR E-MAIL! NOT FORUMS PUBLIC THREADS!

3) Delays or changes in time-schedule are informed to captains as soon as possible. If there are some problems with technical things, connection, important family-things of the host, there might be some changes. Hosts and organizers of this tournament are 1) –heikki- 2) Kharon1 and 3) Holssi. Spare hosts are Mikko_-Procyon- and Janne_-Procyon-. Mikko or Janne might be in the role of official referee in the matches too.

4) Host is open 30min before start (19.30 time of Finland http://www.aika.fi/ )
And the game will start 20.00. If player is late, he can join to the rest of the matches, but there are no restarts for being late. Matches will be played Mon – Sun, but the most probable time for matches is Sunday evening.

5) There will be 4 lakes in one tournament. Length of the match is always 30min. Lakes are not named before start, but large maps are preferred. There are short, about 5min break between games. Results are counted immediately after game is over (and between maps or in some cases propilkki buddy software is used). There is 30min protesting time after the results are shown. If there is something wrong, captains do the official protest and send it to the organizer (-heikki-, kharon1 and holssi). Procyon Products make decisions for approvals and discarding of the protests. There is no possibility to complain about decisions.

6) If connection to the game is disconnected during match, player is out of the match. If some problems occur during start for more than 3 players, there will be 1 restart. If the same player is constantly having problems with start, no restarts are performed. If the host is crashed, then there will be restart of the lake. Players must rejoin as soon as possible. If there are some other major problems, it is informed to captains as soon as possible. There will be also additional information about continuing of the game. If the kalassa.net forum is temporarily “down”, then game information is shared by e-mail to the captains of the teams.

7) Most of the games are “normal” or “all the species” type of matches, but there will be also 1 special type of match in every league. If game type is ”largest fish”, no extra point for the largest fish is given.

8 ) Points:

1 = 10 points
2 = 8
3 = 6
4 = 5
5 = 4
6 = 3
7 = 2
8 = 1

Largest fish = 1 point

Host is counting points and therefore also collecting playlog-file.  Host is not playing, he is only official referee. In cases of disturbing of other players game (e.g. drilling many holes too near), player must call referee to decide what is going on. Referee can discard the player, if some severe disturbing occurs. Too much spamming in chat is also counted as disturbing, but normal chatting is allowed and even recommended.

List of game system, match table and leagues are shown later in this thread.

9)  If there are 2 teams with same amount of points, positions in matches makes the difference. If  EVEN THIS did not make a difference, largest fish of the team is taken into account. If EVEN THIS did not make a difference (nearly impossible situation), I will toss a coin to find out the winner.

10) Final is played with the same system than qualifying leagues.

11) Chatting during games is allowed, but private messaging is preferred. In public chat, the language is ONLY English. No other languages are allowed or player will get muted.

12) Latest release of the game (1.1) is used in the tournament. Player can also use mobile version of the game, if desired.

13) The games are played with all lures available.

14) Games are planned to be played during MARCH-APRIL 2016. Time-schedules are informed about 1 week before match.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: jonppa - Maaliskuu 15, 2016, 21:45:11
Team Finland

Clother color 23

1. Tonza (A)
2. Ed
3. Anr
4. Valas

substitutes

Jonppa (C)
Nikke

Contact [email protected]

Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Maaliskuu 16, 2016, 00:07:10
Registration to tournament is now closed.

12 teams are joining, and we will have 3 qualification leagues (4 teams in each of them). 2 best teams of each league goes to the finals. In finals 6 teams are playing.

Preliminary time schedule for the matches:

Qualifications, League 1, 2 and 3: Sunday 3rd of April

Finals: Sunday, 10th of April

NOTE! 27th of March IS NOT a competition day. This is the day, when Finland changes to summertime and it will create a risk of confusion about starting time of the matches.

I will inform captains more later. Next I will create these qualification leagues, so please wait for a while.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Maaliskuu 16, 2016, 00:15:41
Randomly generated qualification leagues for the tournament are:

LEAGUE I:
Latvia
Ukraine
Mongolia
The Netherlands


LEAGUE II:
Lithuania
Sweden
Poland
Finland


LEAGUE III:
Norway
Belarus
Estonia
Russia
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Maaliskuu 17, 2016, 23:20:36
I have now mailed to all captains+organizers. Please let me know, if you haven't receive the mail.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: mariukas - Maaliskuu 27, 2016, 23:46:06
Mikko, Lithuanian not got mail yours, [email protected]
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Maaliskuu 28, 2016, 17:48:55
I have correct e-mail in my contacts, so your junk mail folder may have "eaten" that e-mail. Check that folder.

If there is nothing, you have to provide another e-mail address to me.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Maaliskuu 29, 2016, 21:28:49
Information about round 1 is now mailed to captains! Please check your inbox immediately!
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Priit - Huhtikuu 01, 2016, 12:05:42
I have question

Which option is correct?

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Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: -heikki- - Huhtikuu 01, 2016, 14:08:44

Nationality and Team name :  (Alpha-3) (http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/country_code_list.htm)


 
LEAGUE I:NationalityTeam name
LatviaLVALVA
UkraineUKRUKR
MongoliaMNGMNG
The NetherlandsNLDNLD
LEAGUE II:
LithuaniaLTULTU
SwedenSWESWE
PolandPOLPOL
FinlandFINFIN
LEAGUE III:
NorwayNORNOR
BelarusBLRBLR
EstoniaESTEST
RussiaRUSRUS
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 02, 2016, 21:08:01
Tournament starts at tomorrow. Good luck, everyone!

If there is anything you need to know, contact me or -heikki-, we will help you as much as possible.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Holssi - Huhtikuu 03, 2016, 19:25:16
Live Results (Buddy)

League I

http://teamkn.net/pp2mm2016/league1.html

League II

http://teamkn.net/pp2mm2016/league2.html

League III

http://teamkn.net/pp2mm2016/league3.html
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 03, 2016, 22:31:24
Unofficial results:

League I   
  1. RUS    67    
  2. BLR    49   
  3. EST    32   
  4. NOR    12   

League II
  1. LTU    58   
  2. FIN    45   
  3. SWE    34   
  4. POL    23   

League III
1. LVA    47
  2. NLD    42   
  3. MNG    37
  4. UKR    34   


It looks like the biggest surprise was in League III, where new team in the tournament rushed to finals and biggest star Ukraine was left to 4th position.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 03, 2016, 22:51:48
Team Netherlands is under investigation. IP addresses are linked to 1 Estonian player and 1 BoB player. Both are using different nicks than in this tournament.

I want exact names, facebook profiles or some other evidences that this team is not "shadow team".
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 04, 2016, 01:16:08
IP addresses are now located to 3x Estonia and 1x Finland. So there is nothing that connects any of that team members to Holland in any way.

Team "Netherlands" is now rejected from the tournament. Newly calculated results for League III will be presented tomorrow.

It was not the first time in the history of Propilkki, when some teams are connected with playing "dirty". I think that this was a new record in it incolence.

I am waiting for official response from those players now.





Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Od [MNG] - Huhtikuu 04, 2016, 04:28:51
Oh That is so dirty. Tournament hour is so hard for us. So just woke up and checked e-mail.
Why are these "noobies" disturbed our tournament. What should we do now. Please give us official statement. Thank you Mikko.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Patrick MNG - Huhtikuu 04, 2016, 05:21:16
Good luck guys :-D :-D :-D
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 04, 2016, 09:11:14
We are waiting for the official results. -heikki- is re-counting those and will present them today.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 04, 2016, 10:50:29
Situation is changing quickly. When ALL "Netherlands" results are removed, it looks like Team Ukraine may be going to finals.. we need to re-re-check these calculations once again.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Od [MNG] - Huhtikuu 04, 2016, 11:20:36
Yes. We understand that . After this happened We already calculated that and see the tournament rule. But rule don't have anything of that.

These fake players all influenced in all circumstances. For example fishing position etc...

What should we follow now?
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 04, 2016, 12:23:05
I totally agree with you that those fake players had effect on gameplay. One thing is sure that Latvia won that League I.

I have to discuss with people and see the final points etc..

Currently there are two possibilities that I am considering:

1) Based on current points, Ukraine is 2nd and goes to finals

2) If there is no clear difference between Mongolia and Ukraine, it is fair that there is rematch between these two teams and winner goes to finals.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Od [MNG] - Huhtikuu 04, 2016, 12:27:18
Yes we agree that Latvia won .  If Ukraine which is one of the best team in Propilkki would accept, we can arrange the game for the clear result. For our players and fans spent one whole night on this game, they would like to feel it fair .
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Cousen - Huhtikuu 04, 2016, 13:32:28
Hey, the team of Ukraine will answer tomorrow
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: -heikki- - Huhtikuu 04, 2016, 14:14:55
Official results of PP2 WCC-2016 qualification

It is still under consideration how to continue League 1

League 1 1234Yht. / Total
Latvia1120201566
Ukraine513121949
Mongolia2478645
The Netderlands0000disk.
League 2 1234Yht. / Total
LITHUANIA189171559
FINLAND118121445
SWEDEN51210633
Poland6111523
League 3 1234Yht. / Total
RUSSIA122251967
BELARUS181613249
ESTONIA1721332
NORWAY42612
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: -heikki- - Huhtikuu 04, 2016, 14:50:35
 League 1-3 Playlog

League 1 (http://teamkn.net/pp2mm2016/lohko1.txt)
League 2 (http://teamkn.net/pp2mm2016/Lohko%202.txt)
League3 (http://teamkn.net/pp2mm2016/lohko3.txt)

More detailed information (http://teamkn.net/pp2mm2016/tilas.php)
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Cousen - Huhtikuu 04, 2016, 22:57:34
if possible not to play with Mongolia that we use it
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 05, 2016, 10:03:13
if possible not to play with Mongolia that we use it

I have to discuss about it.

In the light of these results:

Ukraine   5   13   12   19   total 49
Mongolia   24   7   8   6   total 45

..it looks like Ukraine has been more succesful at 3 maps out of 4. Instead, Mongolia won the 1st map clearly, but was weaker at the last three. This result needs to be discussed and decision is given later this day or tomorrow. Please follow this thread.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Anr - Huhtikuu 05, 2016, 12:10:45
Below is presented a new calculation of points for League 1 of the World Championships. Points are multiplied by 0.75 (3/4 as "Team Netherlands" were not what was told) and points of Team Mongolia and Team Ukraine are then compared with each other.

New points with Team Netherlands scores:

Team Ukraine:
Cousen 13,5
1sergey 3,75
Raven 3
jonson 5,25
SUM= 25,5

Team Mongolia:
Tuvshuu 8,25
Babur 8,25
nasaa mgl 2,25
Tumur 9
SUM= 27,75

Without Team Netherlands:

Team Ukraine:
Cousen: 17,25
jonson:9
Raven:4,5
1sergey:6
SUM:36,75

Team Mongolia:
Tuvshuu:9
Babuur: 10,5
nasaa mgl: 3,75
Tumur 10,5
SUM = 33,75

Then comparison of points:

Team Mongolia's scores first:
(27,75 / 25,5 ) - (33,75 / 36,75)=

1,078431373- 0,91836735 = 0,169867947

Team Ukraines scores first:
(36,75 / 33,75) -(25,5 / 27,75) =
1,088888889 -0,9272727273=  0,16996997

Number in red shows that when noting both ways to count points, but ignoring Team Netherlands points equally in both cases, Team Ukraine's performance was a little better. Margin is pretty small.

Good luck to both teams.



Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Od [MNG] - Huhtikuu 05, 2016, 12:19:19
 This problem occurred because of fake gamers(NLD).  And there are no clear rule for this situation such as if this kind of problem happened, how the organizers calculate results... We are connected 30 minutes before the match, there were time for checking all IP addresses.
Therefore Mongolian team prefer play with UKR for clear results instead of irregular decision and rematch all league game.
We would not regret for losing. We would not brag for luckily winning.
Hope you decision would be wise...
Peace and Fair play.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Od [MNG] - Huhtikuu 05, 2016, 12:40:21
LITTLE CORRECTION

Then comparison of points:

Team Mongolia's scores first:
(27,75 / 25,5 ) - (33,75 / 36,75)=
1,0882352941176470588235294117647- 0,91836734693877551020408163265306 = 0,16986794717887154861944777911164

Team Ukraines scores first:
(36,75 / 33,75) -(25,5 /27,75 ) =
1,0888888888888888888888888888889 - 0,91891891891891891891891891891892 =  0,16996996996996996996996996996998

 THE DIFFERENCE IS : 0,0001



Below is presented a new calculation of points for League 1 of the World Championships. Points are multiplied by 0.75 (3/4 as Team Netherlands were assholes) and points of Team Mongolia and Team Ukraine are then compared with each other.

New points with Team Netherlands scores:

Team Ukraine:
Cousen 13,5
1sergey 3,75
Raven 3
jonson 5,25
SUM= 25,5

Team Mongolia:
Tuvshuu 8,25
Babur 8,25
nasaa mgl 2,25
Tumur 9
SUM= 27,75

Without Team Netherlands:

Team Ukraine:
Cousen: 17,25
jonson:9
Raven:4,5
1sergey:6
SUM:36,75

Team Mongolia:
Tuvshuu:9
Babuur: 10,5
nasaa mgl: 3,75
Tumur 10,5
SUM = 33,75

Then comparison of points:

Team Mongolia's scores first:
(27,5 / 25,5 ) - (33,75 / 36,75)=

1,007843137 - 0,91836735 = 0,0894

Team Ukraines scores first:
(36,75 / 33,75) -(25,5 / 27,5) =
1,088888889 -0,9272727273=  0,1609

Number in red shows that when noting both ways to count points, but ignoring Team Netherlands points equally in both cases, Team Ukraine's performance was a little better. Margin is pretty small.

Good luck to both teams.





Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Anr - Huhtikuu 05, 2016, 12:52:04
LITTLE CORRECTION

Then comparison of points:

Team Mongolia's scores first:
(27,75 / 25,5 ) - (33,75 / 36,75)=
1,0882352941176470588235294117647- 0,91836734693877551020408163265306 = 0,16986794717887154861944777911164

Team Ukraines scores first:
(36,75 / 33,75) -(25,5 /27,75 ) =
1,0888888888888888888888888888889 - 0,91891891891891891891891891891892 =  0,16996996996996996996996996996998

 THE DIFFERENCE IS : 0,0001



Below is presented a new calculation of points for League 1 of the World Championships. Points are multiplied by 0.75 (3/4 as Team Netherlands were assholes) and points of Team Mongolia and Team Ukraine are then compared with each other.

New points with Team Netherlands scores:

Team Ukraine:
Cousen 13,5
1sergey 3,75
Raven 3
jonson 5,25
SUM= 25,5

Team Mongolia:
Tuvshuu 8,25
Babur 8,25
nasaa mgl 2,25
Tumur 9
SUM= 27,75

Without Team Netherlands:

Team Ukraine:
Cousen: 17,25
jonson:9
Raven:4,5
1sergey:6
SUM:36,75

Team Mongolia:
Tuvshuu:9
Babuur: 10,5
nasaa mgl: 3,75
Tumur 10,5
SUM = 33,75

Then comparison of points:

Team Mongolia's scores first:
(27,5 / 25,5 ) - (33,75 / 36,75)=

1,007843137 - 0,91836735 = 0,0894

Team Ukraines scores first:
(36,75 / 33,75) -(25,5 / 27,5) =
1,088888889 -0,9272727273=  0,1609

Number in red shows that when noting both ways to count points, but ignoring Team Netherlands points equally in both cases, Team Ukraine's performance was a little better. Margin is pretty small.

Good luck to both teams.






Yes thank you. You are correct. Quite embarrassing that mistake from me. Sorry. I copypasted wrong excel cell. It is edited now correctly.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 05, 2016, 13:06:06
We are connected 30 minutes before the match, there were time for checking all IP addresses.

Actually IP address checking using several tools and databases take more time than 30 minutes from all players. Moreover, not all players are online immediately. You have to remember that all qualification rounds were played simultaneously, which means that there was 12 x 4 players to be checked. 30minutes means less than 1 minute / each player. Hosts are not able to use same databases that game authors can use, which limits this work to me only.

Next year this whole system will be different. I have good plans for getting rid of cheating. These rules will be tougher, but c'mon.. this is world championship tournament and there is no room for playing dirty at all.

Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Od [MNG] - Huhtikuu 05, 2016, 13:17:45
@Anr Thank you for your amazing calculation. It was not so big mistake :D

@Mikko Organizing world championship is a hard work. Thank you for creating new digital life for anglers :D
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 05, 2016, 13:35:14
After considering this situation I have made my decision, which is final and there is no possibilty to complain about it. This will be extraordinary decision, but the whole picture needs to be understood. I also want to keep this tournament as the most "fair play" tournament that there exists. Therefore, this kind of gesture is now made.

There will be 7 teams playing at the finals this year. Both Mongolia and Ukraine are welcome to play at finals. Both teams collected nearly same amount of points, so there is no place to make artificial separation between them. I understand that Ukraine wants to keep their "higher amount of points" as a ticket to finals. I also understand that Mongolia may have collect more points, if there were not fake"netherlands" on ice.

The game allows easily matches with 30 players. 7 teams means 4x7+host+referee = 30 players.

I will change final maps to bigger ones, so there is room for all players to find hot spots and catch fishes.

Thank you and good luck!
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Od [MNG] - Huhtikuu 05, 2016, 14:05:38
OMG CAN'T BELIEVE IT  :-o    ....
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Zoom - Huhtikuu 05, 2016, 19:05:26
After considering this situation I have made my decision, which is final and there is no possibilty to complain about it. This will be extraordinary decision, but the whole picture needs to be understood. I also want to keep this tournament as the most "fair play" tournament that there exists. Therefore, this kind of gesture is now made.

There will be 7 teams playing at the finals this year. Both Mongolia and Ukraine are welcome to play at finals. Both teams collected nearly same amount of points, so there is no place to make artificial separation between them. I understand that Ukraine wants to keep their "higher amount of points" as a ticket to finals. I also understand that Mongolia may have collect more points, if there were not fake"netherlands" on ice.

The game allows easily matches with 30 players. 7 teams means 4x7+host+referee = 30 players.

I will change final maps to bigger ones, so there is room for all players to find hot spots and catch fishes.

Thank you and good luck!

I believe the right decision.
But, the NLD won fairly, is there any difference from what place they played. For example, I play for Belarus , and I live in Russia , and there are many in the national team.
I organize tournaments and spend them. Sometimes teams 30-33 , 12-16 people each , no matter from which country the player , above the honor of the flag it protects, for one reason or another
Although Mikko knows best :).

Sincerely. Ivan (Zoom)
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 05, 2016, 20:05:55
Fake-"Netherlands" did not won fairly at all. I understand your point of views, because people can live in other country, but their home country is still some other. It is not a problem at all.

But.. this fake-team "The Netherlands" consists of 3 Estonian and 1 Finnish player, based on their IP addresses. I am 100% sure that they were not Dutch, none of them. 2 of them was directly linked to nicks that have been playing in Estonian teams, other even in World Championships earlier in Team Estonia. This tournament is for national teams only, not for "friend team" etc. There are several other possibilities for them to play in other tournaments.

Identity theft is a crime in Finland. This law was activated last fall. Team Netherlands captain created a fake name, e-mail and even used some facial photo in its profile. Therefore it is possible that team captain even break the law during this episode.

One and last reason for rejecting team out of the tournament was the fact that team that was linked to this fake-Netherlands has been collaborating with a Finnish player that has been banned out of all Pro Pilkki II tournaments played under this site. There is high possibility that the Finnish player may be that banned player. However, it is not sure or confirmed anyway, but it is suspicious that there is that old connection. This was not the reason for rejecting from tournament, but it was "a last nail to coffin".
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: -heikki- - Huhtikuu 10, 2016, 19:37:50
World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016 Final

Live-results  (http://teamkn.net/pp2mm2016/final.html),more... (http://teamkn.net/pp2mm2016/totalf2016.php)

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Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Od [MNG] - Huhtikuu 10, 2016, 20:44:51
Drilling takes 4 minutes delay.

I am sorry for the complain . Ping is low, Bandwidth is good.  No idea of this lag.

Maybe next year we should make some tunneling...  :cry:


(http://s23.postimg.org/9a2hynp23/ping.png)
(http://s16.postimg.org/6o7r6n2hx/speedtest.png)


Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Od [MNG] - Huhtikuu 10, 2016, 21:08:49
Here is the video, that shows delay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDaqHmEXkqg&feature=youtu.be (9pike average 400 :D)

https://youtu.be/CIV61PapS1k

It's impossible to play in this situation.
Maybe it is because of our location or some other ussue.
It is a honour to play in world championship final for Mongolians.
Thank you for all organizers, hosts and other teams.
See you in next WC.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 10, 2016, 21:40:38
Yes, it is sad that sometimes internet is just not working. However, there were 7 teams playing and 6 out of 7 were not facing problems. So, it may limit the problem to local internet and some interruption down there. These are situations that cannot be forecast and therefore impossible to prevent. I hope that next year there will be better luck with these. Thank you for joining and playing.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 10, 2016, 22:31:01
Unofficial results:



  1. LTU    47     Gold medal (2 wins)
  2. LVA    47     Silver medal (1 win)
  3. BLR    26    Bronze medal
  4. FIN    23   
  5. UKR    17   
  6. RUS     0   
  7. MNG     0    (quit because of very bad ping)

So it looks like we have new gold medalist in World Championship tournaments of Propilkki 2.

We are waiting for possible protests (30mins) and then official results calculated by -heikki- & Kharon.

Thanks to all teams, this has been wonderful tournament and exciting matches.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: kuku - Huhtikuu 10, 2016, 22:58:18
why Lithuania win? In rules are nothing about 2 wins
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: lydys71 - Huhtikuu 10, 2016, 23:19:34
why Lithuania win? In rules are nothing about 2 wins

9)  If there are 2 teams with same amount of points, positions in matches makes the difference. If  EVEN THIS did not make a difference, largest fish of the team is taken into account. If EVEN THIS did not make a difference (nearly impossible situation), I will toss a coin to find out the winner.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: mariukas - Huhtikuu 10, 2016, 23:27:36
Kuku, if you play in all tournament, you should first to look a rules.
Yes it is game and points sames, but are rules which can helps to find winner.
Thanks organizators for nice tournament and all nationals teams for game!
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: -heikki- - Huhtikuu 10, 2016, 23:31:01
World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016 official results.


RankingFinalLake 1Lake 2Lake3Lake 4Total
ILithuania616101547
II Latvia98121847
IIIBelarus2119426
IVFinland129223
VUkraine115117
VIRussia0
VIIMongolia0

Congratulations Lithuania PP2 World Championship 2016

Lithuania vs Latvia are ranked based on games won. (Lithuania 2, Latvia 1)

Thank you all for the presence of.
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 10, 2016, 23:33:56
The rules of the tournament:

9) If there are 2 teams with same amount of points, positions in matches makes the difference.

I underline the word "matches". It means that matches are regarded separately. Not the total number of points collected by player(s).

And here are the results from matches:

Vuontele:
1. Raven UKR 5kg 543g
2. prusis LVA 5kg 306g
3. Lydys71 LTU 5kg 210g

Venetjoki:
1. Lydys71 LTU 8kg 622g
2. Zoom (C) BLR 7kg 715g
3. prusis LVA 7kg 265g

Ullava:

1. Alex68 LTU 4kg 91g
2. Kingfisher LVA 3kg 881g
3. Nikke FIN 3kg 695g

Iso-Söimi:

1. KU_KU LVA 10kg 267g
2. prusis LVA 8kg 500g
3. Alex68 LTU 7kg 686g

Winners of the matches:
1. Lithuania 2 wins
2. Latvia 1 win
3. Ukraine 1 win
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: Mikko_-Procyon- - Huhtikuu 14, 2016, 01:41:42
Heikki or Kharon, would you publish gamelog of the final here too?
Otsikko: Vs: World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016
Kirjoitti: -heikki- - Huhtikuu 14, 2016, 03:19:36
World Championships of Propilkki 2 - 2016 Final

Play log (http://teamkn.net/pp2mm2016/PP2%20MM-2016%20Finaali.txt)