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International championships of pp2 - 2007-2008
« : Tammikuu 07, 2008, 12:57:59 »
Hi all!

I promised to create some sort of "international championships of Pp2" during this winter. I think that we will start planning these games right now.

Short introduction. I have asked different forums to play some "inner-tournaments" to find out best players and these will play in these international competitions. Each team should have 4 players and one extra player (substitute, if someone just cant join into the game).

I hope to gain 8 different teams to join into these games. Kalassa.net will have its own team. Latvians informed to me, that they have their team ready. Fiskesnack.com and sportfiske.se are asked to join and they promised to play&join into this cup. Kalale.ee and all-fishing.ru will also join our games. I am still waiting 2 more forums, especially from Norway, to join into this cup. So please be fast to inform me, if you hope to join these games.

The international tournament goes like this (preliminary plan).

2 starting leagues, each having 4 teams (4 players + 1 substitute). We will play 3 matches (30min of each) andl sum of caught fishes are added into "teams total sum". One lake will be hard one, one "mass-fish-one", and one will be special game. 2 best teams of each leagye go to final - round.

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Team captains! Please write to me about your forums team, players etc. I will contact ONLY captains of team. Their responsibility is to inform other players.

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Extra info: This cup is NOT for different teams in different forums. This cup is only for "best players of forum" and therefore it will be some sort of "world championships" also.

I know that swedish are now having 2 teams, but let's find out if there is some way to solve this problem..
Henri Poincare: "Tiede on faktoja; aivan kuten talot tehdään kivistä on tiede tehty faktoista; mutta kivikasa ei ole talo eikä kokoelma faktoja ole välttämättä tiedettä."

http://kalassa.net/mikkoprocyon/


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« Vastaus #1 : Tammikuu 07, 2008, 16:28:44 »
If there are HUGE interested, nothing stops us to enlarge this tournament even larger. Users of different forums: let me know, if you have played your own "semi-finals" and have hard Pp2 team, I'll check out if there is anything I can do.
Henri Poincare: "Tiede on faktoja; aivan kuten talot tehdään kivistä on tiede tehty faktoista; mutta kivikasa ei ole talo eikä kokoelma faktoja ole välttämättä tiedettä."

http://kalassa.net/mikkoprocyon/

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Re: International championships of pp2 - 2007-2008
« Vastaus #2 : Tammikuu 07, 2008, 17:09:44 »
Mikko, I'm afraid that you mix "national teams" and "forum teams". You should make this matter more exact.
If there are 2 swedish forums, why it could not be 2 teams?
Meanwhile all-fishing.ru is multinational forum, there are players from several countries there (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus for sure and probably some more). We can only make Soviet Union team on this forum :)
Please think about it and take the final decision, what it would be. Battle of forums? Battle of nations? Something else?
 
« Viimeksi muokattu: Tammikuu 07, 2008, 17:11:32 kirjoittanut Somm »

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« Vastaus #3 : Tammikuu 07, 2008, 21:15:42 »
This thing was not thought before we played "kalassa.net championships". I think that it is wiser to play clear national teams matches after "virtual icefishing championships" (which have been played few times earlier in Finland). Then we might know "whole nations champion". I believe that this time it is better to play "only" forum vs. forum type of matches.

In Finland we also have many fishing forums, but some play under kalassa.net, erankavijat.net, kalamies.com etc.. I dont know, that do they have their own team, because many of them have played also in our "kalassa.net tournament". It is problematic, so thats why I generalized it to be "forum is also nations team". It is not planned to be so severe, only just for fun. Winners are called like "xxxx.net from xxxxland have won the first international team-cup in Pp2".  We have to start from short and easy cups, maybe later more intensive and larger tournaments.

We dont have any trophies to share (yet), but if someone finds sponsors for these games, let me know about it.
Henri Poincare: "Tiede on faktoja; aivan kuten talot tehdään kivistä on tiede tehty faktoista; mutta kivikasa ei ole talo eikä kokoelma faktoja ole välttämättä tiedettä."

http://kalassa.net/mikkoprocyon/


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Re: International championships of pp2 - 2007-2008
« Vastaus #4 : Tammikuu 11, 2008, 12:52:24 »
This really sounds exiting.We will be there with our best team,for sure :-)

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« Vastaus #5 : Tammikuu 15, 2008, 14:14:49 »
Ok, I have decided, that we play now "forum against forum" type of matches. It is impossible YET to create national team.

So, what we have to do, is to create forum-teams.

Kalassa.net -team will be:

Lemmy (FIN)
Luupaa (FIN
seppojohannes (FIN)
Aake (FIN)
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Spare-members:
Nidexter     
Msopuli             

...and if Piibu (EST) changes his mind, he could also be included into team.

Team Kalassa.net has not select their captain yet, but I think that some active user could be it? seppojohannes? Or champion himself, Lemmy?  Your decision.

Captains role is to inform me about everything important. I will not discuss with all of the players, only with captains (because otherwise this will be a huge mess). And captains then inform their team.

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I think, that there MIGHT be some updates in the rules also. Dont get upset, if we use points instead of total mass in our games. We are currently playing some team challenges and these games will show us the best way to find winners.

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Now:

1) Captains! Name your team and players! Write it over here or mail it to me.

2) Prepare to play these games, I will inform you about the match-list and time-tables ASAP. I have to know these teams before we start to plan schedules. Estimated start of 1st match is "beginning of Feb".

3) There are no trophies yet, if someone has a sponsor, let us know about it.
Henri Poincare: "Tiede on faktoja; aivan kuten talot tehdään kivistä on tiede tehty faktoista; mutta kivikasa ei ole talo eikä kokoelma faktoja ole välttämättä tiedettä."

http://kalassa.net/mikkoprocyon/

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« Vastaus #6 : Tammikuu 15, 2008, 16:10:52 »
I hope to have informations about following teams:

1) Latvian team (LAT)  (contact me by e-mail, name members of your team!)

2) Propilkki.no (NOR)  (contact me by e-mail, name members of your team!)

3) kalale.ee (EST) (contact me by e-mail, name members of your team!)

4) all-fishing.ru (RUS)  AND (contact me by e-mail, name members of your team!)

5) all-fishing.ru (UKR) (contact me by e-mail, name members of your team!)

... I also heard something that swedish forums have not started these "elimination rounds", so IF NO-ONE ASAP CONTACT ME, I will give fiskesnack&sportfiske.se place for:

6) Propilkki.no (SWE)


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And then our own forums team:

7) Kalassa.net (FIN)

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Then there is one place left. Germany!, Swizerland! Lithuania! Fastest will have this place!

If no-one is interested about 8th place in tournament, there might be "team procyon" playing then :)
Henri Poincare: "Tiede on faktoja; aivan kuten talot tehdään kivistä on tiede tehty faktoista; mutta kivikasa ei ole talo eikä kokoelma faktoja ole välttämättä tiedettä."

http://kalassa.net/mikkoprocyon/

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« Vastaus #7 : Tammikuu 16, 2008, 09:08:51 »
Team kalale.ee (EST):

1.cuuba
2.flix
3.vestr
4.accept

...no spare-members listed? Captain (contact person) seems to be Piibu?
Henri Poincare: "Tiede on faktoja; aivan kuten talot tehdään kivistä on tiede tehty faktoista; mutta kivikasa ei ole talo eikä kokoelma faktoja ole välttämättä tiedettä."

http://kalassa.net/mikkoprocyon/

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« Vastaus #8 : Tammikuu 16, 2008, 11:39:07 »
Team kalale.ee (EST):
1.cuuba
2.flix
3.vestr
4.accept

Spare-members:
5.koha14
6.kiisk45

Contact person:
piibu
« Viimeksi muokattu: Tammikuu 16, 2008, 11:40:57 kirjoittanut piibu »


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« Vastaus #9 : Tammikuu 17, 2008, 09:25:11 »
Update!

1) Kalassa.net (FIN):

Lemmy (FIN)
Luupaa (FIN
seppojohannes (FIN)
Aake (FIN)
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Spare-members:
Nidexter     
Msopuli             

2) Team kalale.ee (EST):
cuuba
flix
vestr
accept

Spare-members:
koha14
kiisk45


3) "Team SWE"

Saxon-Swe
Flow-Swe
Gaarn-Swe
Func-Swe

substitute is:
Texxas-Swe

4) Team Latvia

Team Latvia:

 the forums name is www.zive.lv
Team name: "Latvian Jedi Masters"
Team members:
Asars (LAT)
piraats (LAT)
kandavnieks (LAT)
ibioleo (LAT)
+ 2 spare-members
Andzuks (LAT)
Kre (LAT)

5) Team Norway (propilkki.no)

Team Propilkki.no

Hork2(Nor)
Anders(Nor)
Bjoern(Nor)
Stine(Nor)

Spare-members:

Martin(Nor)
Helge(Nor)


6)- FishHome UKR (fishing.kiev.ua)

Zart - captain
Artiom
Tur
Ivan Susanin


Andrey S
Pedro

7) Born in USSR (all-fishing.ru)

Team "Born in USSR" (all-fishing.ru):

BIZ (UKR)
Krepok (BLR)
PSM53 (RUS)
Somm (UKR)
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Rossiyanin (RUS)
Santa K. (RUS)

8 ) Poland

Team Poland are:

luk750 (POL)
jjjan (POL)
Maniek17 (POL)
Bziomek (POL)
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SSG (POL)
karhu_pl (POL)
« Viimeksi muokattu: Helmikuu 05, 2008, 12:43:04 kirjoittanut Mikko_-Procyon- »
Henri Poincare: "Tiede on faktoja; aivan kuten talot tehdään kivistä on tiede tehty faktoista; mutta kivikasa ei ole talo eikä kokoelma faktoja ole välttämättä tiedettä."

http://kalassa.net/mikkoprocyon/

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« Vastaus #10 : Tammikuu 17, 2008, 22:53:05 »
Terve kaikille! / Hi all! :)

@Mikko

When exactly this competition will be played? We have a lot of players in one polish fishing forum, and I've just written to them about the championships. So, if there is still time and place for our team from Poland we would like to join the game.

Greetings/terveisin

-Arek (karhu_pl)-
« Viimeksi muokattu: Tammikuu 17, 2008, 23:11:56 kirjoittanut karhu_pl »

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« Vastaus #11 : Tammikuu 17, 2008, 23:30:39 »
Ok, sounds good. I hope that you will have your team here at the beginning of February!

So the 8th place in tournament players-list goes to Poland then.
Henri Poincare: "Tiede on faktoja; aivan kuten talot tehdään kivistä on tiede tehty faktoista; mutta kivikasa ei ole talo eikä kokoelma faktoja ole välttämättä tiedettä."

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« Vastaus #12 : Tammikuu 18, 2008, 01:45:31 »
@Mikko

Ok, great - so just from now we'll be working on preparing our Team Poland. Probably we will organize some internal elemination in our forum (let's say 26.01) and then I'll let you know exactly who will play in the tournament.

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« Vastaus #13 : Tammikuu 18, 2008, 09:40:06 »
Ok.

If e-mail in your profile is ok, I will use it, when I have something to inform you about. So I put you as a "captain" or contact person of your team.
Henri Poincare: "Tiede on faktoja; aivan kuten talot tehdään kivistä on tiede tehty faktoista; mutta kivikasa ei ole talo eikä kokoelma faktoja ole välttämättä tiedettä."

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« Vastaus #14 : Tammikuu 18, 2008, 15:22:51 »
Hei!

Yes, the e-mail address is correct, so you can send e-mails on it. Please, let me know, how much time exactly do we have to prepare our team? By the end of January we will have our team ready, but it would be best to have one week more. 

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« Vastaus #15 : Tammikuu 18, 2008, 15:35:47 »
I will create match-schedule at the beginning of February (and also rules, if there is need for some modifications). It is important, that you have your team ready before that.So you have about 2 weeks time, I think it is enough?
Henri Poincare: "Tiede on faktoja; aivan kuten talot tehdään kivistä on tiede tehty faktoista; mutta kivikasa ei ole talo eikä kokoelma faktoja ole välttämättä tiedettä."

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« Vastaus #16 : Tammikuu 19, 2008, 11:37:36 »
Tietysti :) We'll be ready then.


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« Vastaus #17 : Tammikuu 20, 2008, 13:50:41 »
Team Latvia:

 the forums name is www.zive.lv
Team name: "Latvian Jedi Masters"
Team members:
Asars (LAT)
piraats (LAT)
kandavnieks (LAT)
ibioleo (LAT)
+ 2 spare-members
Andzuks (LAT)
Kre (LAT)
Henri Poincare: "Tiede on faktoja; aivan kuten talot tehdään kivistä on tiede tehty faktoista; mutta kivikasa ei ole talo eikä kokoelma faktoja ole välttämättä tiedettä."

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« Vastaus #18 : Tammikuu 22, 2008, 00:46:13 »
Team Propilkki.no

Hork2(Nor)
Anders(Nor)
Bjoern(Nor)
Stine(Nor)

Spare-members:

Martin(Nor)
Helge(Nor)
Henri Poincare: "Tiede on faktoja; aivan kuten talot tehdään kivistä on tiede tehty faktoista; mutta kivikasa ei ole talo eikä kokoelma faktoja ole välttämättä tiedettä."

http://kalassa.net/mikkoprocyon/

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Re: International championships of pp2 - 2007-2008
« Vastaus #19 : Tammikuu 24, 2008, 19:05:09 »
Team "Born in USSR" (all-fishing.ru):

BIZ (UKR)
Krepok (BLR)
PSM53 (RUS)
Somm (UKR)
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Rossiyanin (RUS)
Santa K. (RUS)


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« Vastaus #20 : Tammikuu 28, 2008, 17:34:56 »
Team Poland:

luk750 (POL)
jjjan (POL)
Maniek17 (POL)
Bziomek (POL)
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SSG (POL)
karhu_pl (POL)

The forums address is: www.pogawedki.wedkarskie.pl

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« Vastaus #21 : Helmikuu 01, 2008, 12:38:08 »
Hi

I hope to receive members of Team Ukraine after this weekend!

So, we'll try to start international championships as soon as possible.

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Is it too hard to play matches during weeks (monday - thursday)? If we start matches at 21.00 (host open 20.30, Finlands time), normally playing of these 4 matches will take about 2 hours. Is it too late for you? I have a possibility to start server at 20.00 also (not earlier) and games will then start at 20.30.

If this is ABSOLUTELY no, then we will play during weekends. Note, that it is "lota lota" (burbot) season going on, and I will not be online everytime at evenings/nights, especially at weekends.

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This message is also posted to our forum.

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1st elimination rounds leagues will be:
(randomized)

1)
Ukraine
Estonia
Latvia
Finland

2)
Sweden
Poland
Russia
Norway

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Henri Poincare: "Tiede on faktoja; aivan kuten talot tehdään kivistä on tiede tehty faktoista; mutta kivikasa ei ole talo eikä kokoelma faktoja ole välttämättä tiedettä."

http://kalassa.net/mikkoprocyon/

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Re: International championships of pp2 - 2007-2008
« Vastaus #22 : Helmikuu 01, 2008, 16:41:55 »
1st elimination rounds leagues will be:
(randomized)

1)
Ukraine
Estonia
Latvia
Finland

2)
Sweden
Poland
Russia
Norway


Looks almost like the World Championships in ice-hockey elemination round :-) :-) :-) (with a few exeptions, and no specific favourite)

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Re: International championships of pp2 - 2007-2008
« Vastaus #23 : Helmikuu 03, 2008, 15:19:36 »
(with a few exeptions, and no specific favourite)
No favourite? What about Finland??? (but we will do our best to defeat them :P)
« Viimeksi muokattu: Helmikuu 03, 2008, 15:24:35 kirjoittanut Somm »

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« Vastaus #24 : Helmikuu 04, 2008, 09:41:34 »
Rule-info for championship matches

1)   Teams are named in ”international championship thread”. Captains are “contact persons”.  Each team have 4 players and 2 substitutes. If lower amount of players are available, when game starts, team must play by using only earlier named list of players.

2) Captains are informed about time-schedule and IP-address of the games. They have to share this information with their team. USE PRIVATE MESSAGES OR E-MAIL! NOT FORUMS PUBLIC THREADS! Otherwise we have to use passwords to protect outsiders effect.

3) Delays or changes in time-schedule are informed to captains as soon as possible. If there are some problems with technical things, connection, important family-things of the host, there might be some changes. Spare-host is Janne Procyon, but in all other cases it is me (Mikko). If Janne cant host game, match will be scheduled to other day.

4) Host is open 30min before start (20.00 time of Finland http://www.aika.fi/ )
And the game will start 20.30. If player is late, he can join to the rest of the matches, but no restarts for being late.

5) There will be 4 lakes in one tournament. (2x 15min and 2x 30min). Lakes are not named before start, but “long games are played in large maps”. There are short, about 5min break between games. Results are counted immediately after game is over. There are 30min protesting time after results are shown. If  there are something wrong, captains do the official protest and send it to me or Janne (if hosting). Procyon Products make decisions for approvals and discarding of the protests. There is no way to complain about decisions.

6) If connection to the game is cut off during match, player is out of the match. If some problems occur during start, there will be 1 restart. If the same player is constantly having problems with start, no restarts are performed. If the host is crashed, then there will be restart of the lake. Players must rejoin as soon as possible. If there are some other major problems, it is informed to captains as soon as possible. There will be also additional information about continuing of the game.


7) Most of the games are “normal” type of matches, but there will be also “largest fish” and “pcs” type of games. Most of species and “only kiiski” types are not selected. Lakes will/might be different between starting leagues.

8 ) Points:

1 = 10 points
2 = 8
3 = 6
4 = 5
6 = 4
7 = 3
8 = 2
9 = 1

Largest fish = 1 point  (after all, I decided to take this into pointing system).

Host is counting points and therefore also collecting playlog-file.  Host is not playing, he is only official referee.

In starting leagues, there will be 4 teams in each league (total 16 players + referee). Best 2 teams of each league goes to final.

Starting leagues:

1)
Ukraine
Estonia
Latvia
Finland

2)
Sweden
Poland
Russia
Norway

Players of the teams are informed here:
http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php?topic=17636.0

Team Ukraine have not informed players yet. Last deadline is Friday 8th of Feb. If there is no players named before this, the team will be out of tournament.

9) Games are planned to be played during February 2008. Time-schedules are informed about 1 week before match. We will prefer playing durin Mon- Thu. Weekends are too busy for most of us (we are fishermen!).

10)  2 best teams of each starting league go to final. If there are 2 teams with same amount of points, positions in matches makes the difference. If  EVEN THIS did not make a difference, largest fish of the team is taken into account. If EVEN THIS did not make a difference (nearly impossible situation), I will toss a coin to find out the winner.

11) Final is played with the same system than starting leagues.

12) Chatting during games is allowed, but private messaging is preferred. In public chat, the language is ONLY English. No other languages are allowed or player will get muted.


POSSIBLE TIME-TABLE!!! (not final yet, but please make a marking into your calenders)

13th of Feb 20.00-23.30    Starting League 1
14th of Feb 20.00-23.30    Starting League 2

20th of Feb 20.00-23.30    Finals
 


We have no trophies sponsored for this tournament. Team Procyon will do some sort of avatar + banner for winning team, if they want to use them i.e. in their own forum profiles.


Best wishes and good luck!

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Vs: International championships of pp2 - 2007-2008
« Vastaus #25 : Helmikuu 04, 2008, 10:12:30 »
One thing about "largest fish"  extra point. If game type is "largest fish", then this additional extra point is NOT taken into account!
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Vs: International championships of pp2 - 2007-2008
« Vastaus #26 : Helmikuu 05, 2008, 12:42:06 »
At last:

Team Ukraine:

Zart - captain
Artiom
Tur
Ivan Susanin
Andrey S
Pedro
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Vs: International championships of pp2 - 2007-2008
« Vastaus #27 : Helmikuu 12, 2008, 13:08:15 »
Latest messages are disappeared, because of server changing.

BUT!!

Tomorrow, at wednesday, these competitions will start. At 20.00 (time of Finland), there will be LEAGUE 1 playing. At thursday, league 2's turn.

So, here they are:

League 1
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Ukraine
Estonia
Latvia
Finland


League 2
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Sweden
Poland
Russia
Norway
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Vs: International championships of pp2 - 2007-2008
« Vastaus #28 : Helmikuu 13, 2008, 22:32:57 »
League 1 is now played:

Results are:

1) Latvia 61
2) Finland 51

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3) Estonia 41
4) Ukraine 10

Latvia and Finland will play in finals. GOOD LUCK!


Lakes today were:

Mustalampi "quantity match"
Siikakoski normal
Jormua/hietalahti normal
Taivallampi/south normal
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Re: International championships of pp2 - 2007-2008
« Vastaus #29 : Helmikuu 13, 2008, 22:36:47 »
Yessssssssssssss!!!  :-D :-D :-D

Congrats to the winning teams- Latvia and Suomi! :-)



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