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« on: January 27, 2009, 23:30:02 »
After the World championship the administration of forums http://www.fishingfan.biz/forum/index.php and http://all-fishing.ru/index.php suggests to hold command tournament between forums. The quantity of commands from a forum - is not limited. Quantity of players in a command constant - 10 persons. Tournament is offered to be conducted on a circle - each command plays with each. In one day weeks (environment) at 20.00 across Helsinki. 2 games for 30 minutes. 1 game on a host of 1 command, 2 game on other host (on a visit). The task is underlined before game in a game chat a command - the owner, 2nd game on the contrary. Results of game - offset on the first 8 players on points. 1 place - 10 points, 2 place - 8 points, 3 place - 6 points, 4 place - 5 points, 5 place - 4 points, 6 place - 3, 7 - 2 points, 8 - 1 point. The others - 0.

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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2009, 00:14:20 »
Delivery of following awards is offered to winners and prize-winners of tournament -

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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2009, 22:39:48 »
Dimafan. I published your invitation in the Latvian forum. So far there is no "jumping and screaming of joy" about this tournament, but at least 1 latvian team will join.
BUT, there is a problem. As you can imagine- not everyone is able to show up to every game already now, in our own championship, so, I can assure you, that we will never be 10 persons in one game if you do not allow a larger team. Say 10+2. I would of course, officially inform you at least 2 days before the game about the actual (10 person) line-up. What do you think of this?

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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2009, 22:48:15 »
I forgot. Do i publish the application form here, or somewhere else?  :?

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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2009, 15:42:10 »
Team Legion, clothes colour Nr 8 (dark green)

1.   Koka_Klucis (captain)
2.   Aigars
3.   Bebrs
4.   Eduks
5.   Gatis
6.   Hllupiks
7.   Je6ka
8.   Kika
9.   Maris
10. Zivgarnis
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1. Aivars N- spare member
2. Andzha- spare member
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2009, 13:43:21 »
I was just wondering, why there is no Finnish teams at all.. Maybe I talk with Team Procyon about this tournament.

But first I want to know, is there a league-type of point calculations or just "Play-offs" ?

(Sorry for my late contact with this thing).
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2009, 15:13:24 »
I was just wondering, why there is no Finnish teams at all.. Maybe I talk with Team Procyon about this tournament.
Because finnish teams do not react so far :) I think this is not even project... just an "idea".
No rules, no schedule, no limitations... only big wish to involve as many teams as possible :) Just imagine: each forum can send unlimited number of teams and each team must play vs another! This kind of tournament needs serious management and big experience. Otherwise it will end after 3-4 rounds with the only result: waste of time.
This idea needs a lot of time to think about it. The only man who held big tournament and knows something about it, is Kaizzu. Maybe he can help if he wants to...

IMHO: only one team of each forum should play in that team WC. Dunno, how it should be defined: best 10 players of forum or best team of forum. If no limitations taken, this will turn into schweinefest, not competition...
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2009, 15:39:11 »
Somm.. SM-matches are quite big tournament (176 players + extras)... Kaizzu is not "the only man" ;)

But I got and idea. .Kaizzu & co made a huge work with updating results etc, which is many times larger than my tournaments.

I think that forum-cup -idea could be held with play-off system. There will be randomized team vs. team -matches (e.g. best of 3). The winner just goes to the next round. Final, semi-final (4 teams), quarter-finals (8 teams), round before that (16 teams), round before that (32 teams)...   If there is no exact number of teams to be placed in this system, then there may be e.g. first 6 winning teams selected and the losers will play next round to qualify. League type of playing (everyone plays against each other) will be too hard without professional organizing.

I disagree with that "only 1 team/forum" idea, because it will lead to kalassa.net members to create shadow-team from some other fishing forum.
Henri Poincare: "Tiede on faktoja; aivan kuten talot tehdään kivistä on tiede tehty faktoista; mutta kivikasa ei ole talo eikä kokoelma faktoja ole välttämättä tiedettä."

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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2009, 12:46:24 »
Somm.. SM-matches are quite big tournament (176 players + extras)... Kaizzu is not "the only man" ;)

But I got and idea. .Kaizzu & co made a huge work with updating results etc, which is many times larger than my tournaments.

I think that forum-cup -idea could be held with play-off system. There will be randomized team vs. team -matches (e.g. best of 3). The winner just goes to the next round. Final, semi-final (4 teams), quarter-finals (8 teams), round before that (16 teams), round before that (32 teams)...   If there is no exact number of teams to be placed in this system, then there may be e.g. first 6 winning teams selected and the losers will play next round to qualify. League type of playing (everyone plays against each other) will be too hard without professional organizing.

I disagree with that "only 1 team/forum" idea, because it will lead to kalassa.net members to create shadow-team from some other fishing forum.
OK, playoff system sounds much more realistic. And even with that, the following is needed:
- rules and schedule;
- at least one good-english-speaking-person per team;
- at least one overall coordinator;
- special webpage in english.
Rules should be like football or hockey WC. All teams divided into several groups, playing round-matches, then winners and best 2nd places go through to playoffs. Continue thinking about it ;)

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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2009, 11:55:16 »
We hope that not too late.

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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2009, 15:14:39 »
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2009, 08:24:47 »
RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR HOLDING OF BIG TEAM TOURNAMENT BETWEEN FORUMS
ON THE GAME PROPILKKI 2 “SPRING 2009”

1. TOURNAMRNT’S PROVIDERS
- http://www.kalassa.net
- http://www.fishingfan.biz
- http://www.all-fishing.ru
- http://rideg.lv
- http://www.propilkki.no

2. OFFICIAL FORUM AND TOURNAMRNT’S TOPICS
http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php?topic=21013.0
http://www.fishingfan.biz/forum/index.php?showforum=72
http://www.all-fishing.ru/forum/index.php?...amp;#entry63704
http://www.propilkki.no/viewtopic.php?f=42...;p=13784#p13784

3. MAJOR TOURNAMRNT’S ARBITRATOR - Dimafan

4. TASKS AND OBJECTIVES.

The tournament is aimed at:
-popularization of the game “Propilki” and winter sportfisinf on the whole;
- promotion of active rest at the computer in the evenings and declaring of healthy lifestyle (those who abuse alcohol – lose on the ice!
-rise of players’ mastership
- identifying of the strongest teams and players
- sharing experiences in perfection of the game mastership and tactics
- involving a bigger amount of players into the game
- widening of friendly ties between countries and regions

5. TIME AND PLACE OF CARRYING OUT OF THE TOURNAMENT
The tournament starts on Thursday 26th 2009 and will last during 11 weeks. During all this time each of 22 teams-participants will play 21 tour with each other. The teams meet on the ice twice a week with each other. The tournament days are Monday and Thursday*. Each tour consists of two half-an-hour games, which are held on their host and the opponent’s host. First game’s start in the tour is at 9 p.m. Moscow time**. By the agreement of 2 sides (for example, when the host is unstable), it is admitted to carry out 2 games on 1 host.
* In case it’s impossible to carry out one of games between 2 particular teams on the official tournament day, the teams (on the skippers’ nod) have the right to put off the game (is not welcomed). The teams’ skippers must notify the major arbitrator of the tournament about it in the according topic. It must be done not later than 24 hours before the game start.

http://www.fishingfan.biz/forum/index.php?...amp;#entry13949 http://www.all-fishing.ru/forum/index.php?...amp;#entry63704
http://www.fishingfan.biz/forum/index.php?...amp;#entry63704

6. TOURNAMENT’S CARRYING CONDITIONS
- To participate in the tournament are admitted the teams which filed an application to the providers before the tournament start. The application is published in the special topic
http://www.fishingfan.biz/forum/index.php?...amp;#entry13949 The skipper of the team or the skipper’s assistant are the team’s representatives.

- It’s allowed to applicate no more than 14 players for one team (10 main field players + 4 odd players), the players must be officially registered participants of “the home forum”, which play all the tournament from the beginning till the end. In case in the team of 14 players 3, 4, 5 players are lost in the process of the tournament, the team finishes the game with 11, 10 or 9 players.

- In case there were less amount of players initially, the team has the right to add the necessary amount of players in the process of the tournament. To add players you also need to publish in the topic
(http://www.fishingfan.biz/forum/index.php?showtopic=959&pid=13949&st=0&#entry13949).

-The skipper of the team may field any player out of the applicated before. The team before every tour chooses on their own 10 people, who will play today. If by the end of the tour while printing of results in the team composition there will be a player not applicated before, the team looses this game.
- The team-hoster has to declare the opponent his location, the season and time of day in the game chat before the start.
- It’s not allowed during the tournament for a player to participate in a team, who in this tournament had already performed for any other team.
- Application forms to participate in the tournament must be sent to the providers to the topic
http://www.fishingfan.biz/forum/index.php?...amp;#entry13949 http://www.all-fishing.ru/forum/index.php?...amp;#entry63704 on the following form:

/The name of the home forum
Colour of the form - №…
‘The name of the team”
/the address of the “guest page”, which was created on purpose for the tournament/

1. _________ - (The skipper)
2. _________ - (The assistant to the skipper)
3. _________
4. _________
5. _________
6. _________
7. _________
8. _________
9. _________
10. ________
11. ……
12. ……

7. RULES OF CARRYING OUT THE TOURNAMENT
- The tournament is carried out of 21 tour according to amount of locations in the game
- The tournament consists of 2 games, 30 minutes each.
- The tournament is circular, it means that every team will play a game with another team on their host and also play a game on the opponent’s host.
- The timetable of the games is in the following topic:
http://www.fishingfan.biz/forum/index.php?...amp;#entry13949 http://www.all-fishing.ru/forum/index.php?...amp;#entry63704 http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php?topic=21013.0 http://www.propilkki.no/viewtopic.php?f=42...;p=13784#p13784 .

Each team will play 21 times on their host and other 21 times on the opponent’s host.
The games start on the teams’ hosts noted in the timetable as first in pairs.
http://www.fishingfan.biz/forum/index.php?showtopic=960 The receiving company informs its opponent the host IP by publishing it in the following topic http://www.fishingfan.biz/forum/index.php?...amp;#entry13949 http://www.all-fishing.ru/forum/index.php?...amp;#entry63704 and in the according topic of the forum of team of the guests.

Before the game the receiving team informs the team of the guests about the location, the season and part of day. A team can’t declare one and the same lake during the tournament: 21 amounts of home games means 21 different locations.
No more than 10 players from 1 team may attend the host
Expletives in the chat are prohibited. It’s not recommended to write in the public chat unless necessary. It’s also not recommended to abuse private chat.
-At the sound of take-off rocket the teams follow to the chosen place and start fishing. It’s allowed for the teams to change spots of fish catching unlimited amount of times within the bounds of locations.
- The distance between the sportsmen from different teams is subjected by the game itself. Comments in the game chat on the topic “hole drilling” are prohibited.

-By the end of each game according to the tally sheet points are calculated:

1 place - 10
2 place - 8
3 place - 6
4 place - 5
5 place - 4
6 place - 3
7 place 2
8 place 1
9 place and the following – 0


- The result of the game is calculated according to the point total of the first 8 players in the tally sheet. A team which scored the most amount of points wins. For the big fish a point is not scored.
- If the team wins it scores 2 points, if there’s draw -1 point, if it loses – 0 points.
All the points scores by the team are summarized and put in the standings. I the team score the most amount of points, it wins.
In case 2 or more teams scored in the tournament equal amount of points, the highest in the standings there will be the team, which has the highest general difference of all scored and lost points of all games. If this difference is the same, there wins the team which in the graph "-" has the least points.
Game results after each tour, the chart of locations, ordered by the teams and the intermediate chart of the tournament will be published in the topic as a final result of the meeting between the teams

- http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php?topic=21013.0 - http://www.fishingfan.biz/forum/index.php?...amp;s=&f=72 - as a play-log or screen of both the teams

- In case of arguable situations full screen of the meeting and play-log are published. Screens and the results of the meeting spreads the skipper of the team which first receives the “guests” on the game day. Just to be safe screens are recommended to save on your computers individually.

Replacement of players in the process of the game are prohibited. Replacement is allowed only before the game start from the amount of players claimed before.

1 - place -
2 - place -
3 - place -

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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2009, 22:37:00 »

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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2009, 23:37:22 »
1 place - Team - Mormyshka

(forum - http://www.all-fishing.ru 1. mityaga – капитан (The captain), 2. diya, 3. chel, 4. Newcomer, 5. GTT, 6. Kukushka, 7. 1sergey_ua, 8. miro, 9. DIV, 10.Skirling, 11. CBRT, 12. AlexK, 13. sem77 (ф.- Sem_77), 14. ys)

 
We congratulate!!!!

2 place - Team - RideG-2
(forum - http://rideg.lv 1. imants044 – капитан (The captain), 2. Aigo Tere, 3. perch2, 4. VikB, 5. Far, 6. ripo17, 7. ovi7, 8. osis55, 9. andza211, 10. vladis, 11. kaspars (Reserver), 12. ivars07 (Reserver), 13. kerajs (Reserver), 14. volda)
 


We congratulate!!!!


3 place - Team – Balansir
(forum - http://www.all-fishing.ru 1. BIZ - капитан (The captain), 2. Krepok - зам. капитана (The assistant to the captain), 3. PSM53, 4. Kiray, 5. S.I.U, 6. KOFF, 7. Dimafan, 8. Majors, 9. Bogdanneo, 10. Petrik73, 11. RS2000, 12. Drug, 13. Show71)


We congratulate!!!!
 

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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2009, 13:50:57 »
We begin work on the organisation of following Interforum command tournament.
For a basis the regulations of the last tournament with completions and the changes caused by remarks in last Interforum tournament will be accepted.
Roughly, the tournament beginning is planned but the first of September of this year.
Total from a forum all-fishing while have submitted demands of 10 commands
1 Bagor
2 Kivok
3 Balansir
4 Mormyshka
5 Fishingklev
6 Zander
7 Varta
8 Rosols
9 Snark
10 Sluchay

Forum fishingfan.biz
1 Trezubec
2 Pingviny
3 Morgi

Forum http://www.propilkki.no
1 pp.no
2 Gullfiskerne
3 fireline

Forum http://www.propilkki.lv"
1 LEGION

Forum http://www.Rideg.lv
1 RideG-1
2 RideG-2
3 RideG-3

Forum http://www.fion.ru
1 fion - I
2 fion - II
3 fion - III

Forum www.zvejotakas.lt
1 Team AntLedo
2 Team KaunoHESas

Forum www.kalassa.net
1 Procyon
2 FPT II
3 FPT I
4 TJK
5 TKP
6 FPT(LD)   

From forums participate
1 Forum from Latvia-RideG will play too
2 Lithuania - will be two commands
3 Nizhniy Novgorod fishing forum of VolgaFishing
4 Forum http://www.propilkki.no
5 Forum fion.ru
6 Forum http://www.propilkki.lv
7 Forum www.zvejotakas.lt
8 Forum www.kalassa.net
9 Forum www.kalale.ee

Итого 32 команд
TOTAL 32 commands
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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2009, 16:03:27 »
We begin work on the organisation of following Interforum command tournament.
To me the basic DESIRE of commands of forums is necessary to participate in tournament at present.
From quantity of the submitted demands, regulations and terms of realisation of the future Interforum tournament will depend.
For a basis the regulations of the last tournament with completions and the changes caused by remarks in last Interforum tournament will be accepted.
Roughly, the tournament beginning is planned but the first of September of this year.

Details here -   http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php?topic=21013.0

Forum www.kalassa.net
1 Procyon
2 FPT II
3 FPT I
4 TJK
5 TKP
6 FPT(LD)   

Have now submitted application forms for participation in tournament of 32 commands
(till 10-14 players in each command 32х10 = 320, 32х14 = 448)
will Play from 14 countries of Europe: Russia, Ukraine, Belorusija, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia,
Norway (I congratulate on 1st place on the Eurovision),
Sweden, Poland, Moldova, Kazakhstan, Germany, England, Finland.

Already 32 commands, I think not a limit, still should be wishing to play.
And about assistants it entirely agree. To one or together it not to pull.
I have some nominees for this purpose
1 Pomkot - Volgofish
2 Santa K. - fishingfan
3 Imants044 - Rideg
4 Crom - propilkki.no
5 Sem_kotuk - fion
6 Dimafan - all-fishing
7 VaNo - the director of procedural committee
8 Jabetsu75 - from Kalassa.net
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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2009, 17:34:47 »
Owing to objective causes, зборы initiative group today will not take place and transferred for June, 17th, 2009 on 22.30 across Moscow.
17 numbers ask all to be at-sight and in readiness.
Approximate regulations:
1 Discussion of terms of realisation of tournament
2 Discussion of regulations and tournament rules
3 Izbraninie of arbitrators of tournament and the chief arbitrator.
4 Drawing up of a calendar of tournament also what to do with other tournaments.
5 Other questions.

From each forum will be invited on 1-4 representatives.

1 RideG - Imants044, Ripo17
2 VolgaFishing - Pomkot, VaNo
3 fion.ru - Sem_Kotuk, Papik, BomV
4 www.propilkki.lv - Koka_Klucis, Maris
5 http://www.propilkki.no - Crom, Martin, Killer Kim
6 www.zvejotakas.lt - Privet iz Litvy, Alex68
7 www.kalale.ee - Ruudi, Jyri
8 www.kalassa.net - Kooqu, Somm, Jabetsu75, Qkkeli
9 all-fishing - Dimafan, Flint, Mityaga, Alexander, BIZ
10 fishfan - S-Driver, Santa K., Talter

ip a server for negotiation will be declared in some hours prior to the beginning in corresponding themes of forums

Guys, at once deliver itself Ventrilo 3 versions. To download all it is possible here - http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php

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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2009, 19:59:31 »
Offtopic:

Vaikka työkielenä on pääasiassa englanti, niin tossa ylhäällä menee tällä hetkellä hyvin paljon ohi minulta.. Mitäs tuossa pääpiirteissään sanotaan?

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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2009, 20:27:26 »
<Offtopic>

Se mitä minulle tuosta aukesi on, jotta tänään piti ilmeisti olla jonkinlainen miittinki eri foorumeiden välillä tuosta eri maiden foorumeiden välisestä turnauksesta, mutta se on pitänyt perua ja siirtää 17.päivälle tätä kuuta klo 22.30 Moskovan aikaa, palaveri pidetään ilmeisesti Ventrilo 3:n kautta ja jokaiselta foorumilta kutsun saa 1-4 edustajaa.
Ip ilmoitetaan myöhemmin.
Palaverissa on tarkoituksena kai läpi käydä nuo 5 kohtaa, 3.kohta ei oikein aukene, mutta kai siinä jotakin yritetään viitata turnauksen pääjehuun ja joka joukkueen pääjehuun..tjsp..muut kohdat vissiin aukeni sulle?
Näin oma englanninkielentajuni sen ymmärtää, mutta ei tuosta täysin perille kyllä päässyt..
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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2009, 23:19:42 »
We begin work on the organisation of following Interforum command tournament.
To me the basic DESIRE of commands of forums is necessary to participate in tournament at present.
From quantity of the submitted demands, regulations and terms of realisation of the future Interforum tournament will depend.
For a basis the regulations of the last tournament with completions and the changes caused by remarks in last Interforum tournament will be accepted.
Roughly, the tournament beginning is planned but the first of September of this year.

Total from a forum all-fishing while have submitted demands of 10 commands
1 Bagor
2 Kivok
3 Balansir
4 Mormyshka
5 Fishingklev
6 Zander
7 Varta
8 Rosols
9 Snark
10 Sluchay

Forum fishingfan.biz
1 Trezubec
2 Pingviny3
4 Morgi

Forum http://www.propilkki.no
1 pp.no
2 Gullfiskerne
3 fireline

Forum http://www.propilkki.lv
1. LEGION
2. Zandarts
3. Sapals

Forum Rideg.lv
1 RideG-1
2 RideG-2
3 RideG-3

Forum fion.ru
1 fion - I
2 fion - II
3 fion - III

Forum www.zvejotakas.lt
1 Team AntLedo
2 Team KaunoHESas

Forum www.kalassa.net
1 Procyon
2 FPT II
3 FPT I
4 TJK
5 TKP
6 FPT(LD)   

Forum http://volgafishingclub.nnov.ru
1 VF


From forums participate
1 Forum from Latvia-RideG will play too
2 Lithuania - will be two commands
3 Nizhniy Novgorod fishing forum of VolgaFishing
4 Forum http://www.propilkki.no
5 Forum fion.ru
6 Forum http://www.propilkki.lv
7 Forum www.zvejotakas.lt
8 Forum www.kalassa.net
9 Forum www.kalale.ee

Итого 35 команд

Total 35 commands
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« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2009, 23:47:51 »
Du må sende 1 dommer fra kroppen. Dette er nødvendig for å arbeide på Grand mellom forumnom turneringen panelet av voldgiftsmenn.

Необходимо представить 1 арбитра от Вашего форума. Это необходимо для работы на Большом Между форумном Турнире, в коллегии арбитров.

Du måste lämna in 1 skiljeman från kroppen. Detta är nödvändigt att arbeta på Grand mellan forumnom turnering panelen av skiljemän.

It is necessary to present 1 arbitrator from your forum. It is necessary for work on Big Between форумном Tournament, in board of arbitrators.

Sinun on toimitettava 1 välimiehen omasta kehosta. Tämä on tarpeen, jotta työ Grand välillä forumnom Turnaus, paneeli Välimiesten.

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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2009, 07:55:48 »
Прошу капитанов команд и админимтрацию форума для решения вопросов по организации и проведения Большого Межфорумного Командного Турнира делегировать в состав арбитров по 1 представителю от форума.
Срок представления - до конца этой недели.
Ребят, плиз, не тяните с этим делом.[/size]

Список представителей (арбитров турнира) здесь -

1 http://www.all-fishing.ru - diya
2 http://www.kalassa.net -
3 http://www.fishingfan.biz - Santa K.
4 http://www.rideg.lv - imants044
5 http://www.propilkki.no -
6 http://www.fion.ru - bomv
7 http://www.volgafishing.ru -
8 http://www.propilkki.lv -
9 http://www.kalale.ee -
10 http://www.zvejotakas.lt - Privet

I ask captains of commands and administration of a forum for the decision of questions on the organisation and realisation of the Big Interforum Command Tournament to delegate to structure of arbitrators on 1 representative from a forum.
Submission term - till the end of this week.
Guys, please, do not delay this business.

The list of representatives (arbitrators of tournament) here -
1 http://www.all-fishing.ru - diya
2 http://www.kalassa.net -
3 http://www.fishingfan.biz - Santa K.
4 http://www.rideg.lv - imants044
5 http://www.propilkki.no -
6 http://www.fion.ru - bomv
7 http://www.volgafishing.ru -
8 http://www.propilkki.lv -
9 http://www.kalale.ee -
10 http://www.zvejotakas.lt - Privet
« Last Edit: July 08, 2009, 13:16:54 by Dimafan »

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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2009, 13:25:57 »
Не все форумы представлены в совете арбитров турнира. Просьба, восполнить данный пробел.


Not all forums are presented in advice of arbitrators of tournament. The request to meet the given lack.

There is no representative from a forum http: // www.kalassa.net in advice of arbitrators of tournament. The greater request to administration of a forum, I ask to present 1 representative for work in advice of arbitrators Big Between forums of Command Tournament (БМКТ). The knowledge of English language necessarily, Russian - is desirable.

N: o edustaja foorumin hallituksen Välimiesten http://www.kalassa.net turnaukseen. Useimmat pyynnöt hallinnointitavasta foorumi, lähetä 1 edustaja palvella hallituksen Välimiesten välillä Forum Suur-Team turnausta (BMKT). Tiedot Englanti vaaditaan, Venäjän kieli - on toivottavaa.

Ingen representant från forumet på bordet skiljemän http://www.kalassa.net turneringen. De flesta ansökningar om förvaltning av ett forum, skicka in 1 representant till i styrelsen skiljemän mellan Forum of Greater Team turneringar (BMKT). Kunskaper i engelska krävs, ryska språket - är önskvärt.

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Не все форумы представлены в совете арбитров турнира. Просьба, восполнить данный пробел.


Not all forums are presented in advice of arbitrators of tournament. The request to meet the given lack.

There is no representative from a forum http: // www.kalassa.net in advice of arbitrators of tournament. The greater request to administration of a forum, I ask to present 1 representative for work in advice of arbitrators Big Between forums of Command Tournament (БМКТ). The knowledge of English language necessarily, Russian - is desirable.

N: o edustaja foorumin hallituksen Välimiesten http://www.kalassa.net turnaukseen. Useimmat pyynnöt hallinnointitavasta foorumi, lähetä 1 edustaja palvella hallituksen Välimiesten välillä Forum Suur-Team turnausta (BMKT). Tiedot Englanti vaaditaan, Venäjän kieli - on toivottavaa.

Tuo suomenkielinen käännös on itseasiassa aika huvittava. Yritän sen tulkata tuon englanninkielisen pätkän kautta.

Eli: Foorumin kalassa.net edustaja kansainväliseen turneeseen puuttuu. Ilmeisesti tämä olisi pitänyt valita jo jonkun aikaa sitten. Pitäisi siis valita yksi edustaja foorumilta kalassa.net, joka toimisi foorumimme vastuuhenkilönä. Vaatimukset -englannin kieli välttämätön, venäjä -toivottavaa.

Jotta tämä saataisiin tehtyä joskus piankin, oma ehdotukseni on se, että osallistuvien tiimien kapteenit kokoontuisivat asiasta päättämään. Miten lopullinen valinta sitten tehdään, sitä minun on paha sanoa. Eli nyt, toimintaa vastuunalaiset tiimeistä FPT, FPT II, FPT LD, TJK, TKP ja Procyon. Asian käsittely on jo myöhässä.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2009, 13:42:33 by Don Miguel »
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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2009, 07:53:41 »
Greetings! For tournament carrying out it is necessary from each forum on 1 representative in council of arbitrators of tournament - Autumn 2009. If he also Russian knows language is will be excellent.
Yours faithfully Dimafan

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« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2009, 16:34:55 »
Greetings! For tournament carrying out it is necessary from each forum on 1 representative in council of arbitrators of tournament - Autumn 2009. If he also Russian knows language is will be excellent.
Yours faithfully Dimafan

Choiching of our forum representative is processing now. After next weeks tuesday there will be more information about it :-)

-Don Miguel, FPT II
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« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2009, 01:20:55 »
Greetings! For tournament carrying out it is necessary from each forum on 1 representative in council of arbitrators of tournament - Autumn 2009. If he also Russian knows language is will be excellent.
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« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2009, 14:51:44 »
Андрей спасибо за помощь! От помощи никогда не отказываемся. Буду всегда рад пообщаться и посоветоваться. На данный час правила и регламент турнира переведены и на финский и на английский языки.

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« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2009, 15:01:21 »

RULES AND REGULATIONS OF CARRYING OUT OF THE BIG INTERFORUM COMMAND TOURNAMENT ON GAME PROPILKKI 2 «ОСЕНЬ-2009»

1. FORUMS - ORGANIZERS OF TOURNAMENT
1.1 http://www.all-fishing.ru
1.2 http://www.kalassa.net
1.3 http://www.fishingfan.biz
1.4 http://www.rideg.lv
1.5 http://www.propilkki.no
1.6 http://www.fion.ru
1.7 http://www.volgafishing.ru
1.8 http://www.propilkki.lv
1.9 http://www.kalale.ee
1.10 http://www.zvejotakas.lt

2. OFFICIAL FORUMS AND TOURNAMENT THEMES
2.1 (http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php? topic=21013.0) – an official forum and a tournament theme

2.2 (http://www.fishingfan.biz/forum/index.php? show forum=72) - the forum administration creates a separate theme for tournament
2.3 (http://www.all-fishing.ru/forum/index.php? show topic=582&pid=63704&st=150 and # entry63704) - the forum administration creates a separate theme for tournament
2.4 (http://www.propilkki.no/viewtopic.php? f=42&p=13784#p13784) - the forum administration creates a separate theme for tournament

3. TOURNAMENT ARBITRATION
3.1 For refereeing realization on tournament each forum-participant has the right to allocate the representative in the Judiciary board.
3.2 Voting of members of a judiciary board appoints the Main Arbitrator.
3.3 Main Arbitrator carries out the general current refereeing on tournament and makes decisions on all questions at issue and regulations infringements.
3.4 Main Arbitrator appoints to itself the Assistant and assistants to the Main Arbitrator and distributes between them duties.
3.5 Judiciary board gathers in the cases demanding a joint decision - at the desire of the Main Arbitrator.
3.6 Judiciary board makes the decision voting. Judiciary board decisions are definitive.
3.7. All questions at issue on a tournament course, captains of commands represent for consideration to board of arbitrators.
3.8. The main arbitrator of tournament _________________________
3.9 Assistants to the main arbitrator 1. ____________________ 2. ________________ 3. _______________
3.10 Contact given boards of arbitrators ______________________________________________________
3.11 Main Arbitrator of tournament concerning commands and separate players of tournament has the right:
3.12 to Give preventions
3.13 to Give a yellow or red card (the infringement sсreen is obligatory + analysis on council of arbitrators of tournament)
3.14 to Disqualify the player or a command on 1 game (the infringement sсreen is obligatory + analysis on council of arbitrators of tournament)
3.15 to Disqualify the player or a command on 2 games (the infringement sсreen is obligatory + analysis on council of arbitrators of tournament)
3.16 to Disqualify the player or a command on 3 games (the infringement sсreen is obligatory + analysis on council of arbitrators of tournament)
3.17 to Disqualify the player or a command till the end of tournament (the infringement sсreen is obligatory + analysis on council of arbitrators of tournament)

4. THE PURPOSES AND PROBLEMS.
4.1 Tournament is spent on purpose:
4.2 Popularizations of game «Profiles 2» and winter fishing as a whole;
4.3 Propagation of productive leisure by evenings at the computer and the statement of a healthy way of life (who without a measure takes alcohol, that does not win on ice!);
4.4 Increases of skill of players;
4.5 Revealings of the strongest teams and players;
4.6 Exchanges of experience in perfection of game skill and game tactics;
4.7 Involving in game большего quantities of players;
4.8 Expansions of friendly relations between the countries and regions.

5. TIME AND THE PLACE OF CARRYING OUT OF TOURNAMENT.
5.1  Tournament begins on Thursday, on September, 3rd, 2009 at 21-00 across Moscow (19-00 Oslo, 20-00 Riga, Vilnius, Helsinki, Tallinn, Minsk, Kiev), and are spent throughout 17  weeks.
5.2  Each from 35 commands-participants 34 rounds will play with each other.
5.3 Commands meet on ice 2 times a week.
5.4 Game days – Monday and Thursday.
5.5 Each round consists of two half-hour games which are spent on the server, and a server of the contender.
5.6 Start of the first game in round – 21:00 Moscow time.
5.7 Under the arrangement of the parties (for example, at an astable server), carrying out of both games on one server is supposed.
5.8 In case of impossibility of carrying out any of games between two concrete commands in official game day, they (as agreed captains) have the right to game carrying over.
5.9 Captains of commands are obliged to notify on it the main arbitrator of Tournament in a corresponding theme (http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php? topic=21013.0) not less, than for 2 hours prior to the beginning of game.
5.10 In case of impossibility of carrying out any of games between two concrete commands during official game time, they (as agreed captains) have the right to shift time of start no more, than for 30 minutes.
5.11 In case of disagreement of one of commands about carrying over (impossibility of carrying out, shift of time of start) games, game should be spent during time taken away for game.
5.12 Captains of commands are obliged to notify on it the arbitrator of Tournament in a corresponding theme (http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php? topic=21013.0) not less, than for 2 hours prior to the beginning of game.

6. CONDITIONS OF CARRYING OUT OF TOURNAMENT.
6.1 To participation in Tournament the commands which have made an application organizers prior to the beginning of Tournament are supposed. The demand is published in a special theme (http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php? topic=21013.0).
6.2 Representative is the captain, or its assistant.
It is necessary for 6.3 Captains of commands to be registered at all forums – participants of tournament. It is necessary for operative information interchange with the captain of contenders.
To 6.4 Captains of commands or representatives from commands to present lists of names of players of the team till August, 10th.
6.5 On tournament the command can declare as much as possible to 14 players (10 basic field players + 4 spare), only from among officially registered participants of a "house" forum who play all tournament from beginning to end. If in completely declared (14 people) a command in the course of Tournament three, four, or five players somewhere vanish, it finishes Tournament by structure in 11, 10, or 9 persons.
6.6 In case of the primary demand of smaller quantity of players, the command has the right of them add to 14 during tournament in the subsequent from among players registered on a forum prior to the beginning of tournament. Add as it is necessarily published in a theme (http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php? topic=21013.0).
6.7 Captain can expose on game of any from among the declared players.
6.8 Command independently chooses before the next round of those of 10 persons which will play today. If on the round termination at listing of results in a line-up there will be a player not declared in advance, to a command defeat in this game is set off.

6.9 In a tournament current participation in a command of the player which in this tournament already supported any command is not supposed. It is punished technical fol.
6.10 Application forms for participation in Tournament are represented to organizers to a theme (http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php? topic=21013.0)
6.11 Next the form of the demand of a command for participation in tournament:
6.12 Writing nickname in the demand is supposed only in English
/ the name and the address of a house forum / "the command name". Color of the form - № …
/ the address specially created for Tournament in a house forum of a guest page /
1. _________ - (The captain)
2. _________ - (The assistant to the captain)
3. _________
4. _________
5. _________
6. _________
7. _________
8. ________
9. ________
10. ________
11. ________
12. ________
13. ________
14. ________

6.13 Form of players of the team should be uniform.
6.14 Nickname of the player - [Team] Nickname it should be clearly visible on a screen and in play log (an example - [Balansir] Dimafan).

7. RULES OF CARRYING OUT OF TOURNAMENT.
7.1 Tournament is spent to 34 rounds.
7.2 Round consists of two games for 30 minutes everyone.
7.3 Tournament circular, that is each command will play with everyone on one game on the server and on one on the guest.
7.4 Schedule of games is resulted in a theme: http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php? topic=21013.0
7.5. Each command 34 times will play on the server and 34 times on the guest.
7.6 Games begin on servers of the commands specified in the schedule first in steams. The accepting command brings to the notice of the contender IP of a server, publishing it in a theme (http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php? topic=21013.0) and in a corresponding theme of a forum of Away team.
7.7 Server on game is published by a receiving party not later, than for 30 minutes prior to the beginning of game in special themes on sites http://www.all-fishing.ru/forum/http://www.kalaassa.net http://www.fishingfan.biz/
7.8 Command – the owner of a server is not obliged before command giving «GO!» To declare game conditions. It can be made in a voluntary order.
7.9 Each command has the right to order 2 times the same location.
7.10 It is forbidden to play twice the same type of game 1 location. In this case the season does not undertake in attention. (It is punished technical fault)
It is impossible to order 7.11 3 times and the more same lake – it is punished technical fault.
7.12 Types of games All species and Normal on one location are considered as one kind of game.
7.13. From a command at game on a server can be present no more than 10 players.
7.14. Erroneous start.
7.14.1 In case of erroneous start of the location which are not corresponding to plans of a command of the owner of a server, restart without the consent of a command of the contender is not made, played the started location. Not coordinated restart is punished technical fol.
7.14.2 In case of erroneous start of conditions of game which cannot be used because of the inadmissibility under tournament regulations, a command the owner of a server has the right to make restart.
7.14.3 If at erroneous start of conditions of game which cannot be used because of the inadmissibility under tournament regulations, the command – the owner of a server has not made restart within 1 minute, game should be finished. To a command broken regulations it is awarded technical fault. Points for the taken places are charged regularly.
7.15 From a command at game on a host can be present no more than 10 players.
7.16 Game chat.
7.16.1 to Write in the general chat needlessly it is not recommended. The private chat does not recommend to abuse.
7.16.2. Obscene expressions in a chat can be punished disqualification on one or several games, up to disqualification till the end of tournament.
7.17 Delay and absences on game.
7.17.1 Delay is occurrence of the player or all command on a game server after established time of the beginning of game.
7.17.3 Absence is absence of the player or a command on a server during the game time which has been taken away on the given location.
7.17.4 Absence on game without the preliminary coordination of time of carrying over of game for other term is infringement of regulations and is punished by technical defeat.
7.17.5 Delay or absence of all command on game for the reason not announcements of a server or technical impossibility to come on a server regulations infringement are not and considered by the Arbitrator separately. As a rule, the Arbitrator in this case appoints replay which time will be co-ordinated by commands among themselves.
7.17.6. In case of absence without the coordination and the prevention in the appointed term - the server declared earlier by the opponent, - commands of the contender on a game server with its full complement the captain is obliged to make the message in a corresponding theme of an official site of tournament and to try to contact the captain of the contender in a chat or other available way.
7.17.7. In case of absence without the command-visitor prevention on game in the appointed term, the captain of a command-owner should make game start. Further, if players of the team of the contender appear on game, game proceeds in a usual mode. Otherwise, to not was opponent under the decision of the arbitrator technical defeat can be included. Points for the taken places in this case are not charged.
7.17.8. In case of delay of one or more players to game start, the captain can address to the opponent with the request - to detain start (till 5 minutes) time. In case of longer delay or refusal of the captain of contenders to detain start, game begins at available structure of participants.
7.17.9 Late players can enter game at any time, without the prior notification of the contender.
7.18 Distance between sportsmen of different commands is regulated by the game. Statements in a game chat on a theme «drilling» are forbidden.
7. 19. Upon termination of each game under the total table to players points are charged:
1 place - 10
2 place - 8
3 place - 6
4 place - 5
5 place - 4
6 place - 3
7 place - 2
8 place - 1
9 place and the subsequent – 0
7.20 Big fish in this tournament it is not considered, the point to the player of the team who has caught Big fish is not awarded.
7.21 Result of a game is considered on a score of the first 8 places in the total table. The winner the command at which players have typed more points admits.
7.22 For a victory the command receives 2 points, for a drawn game - 1 point, for defeat - 0 points.
7.23 Captain of an accepting command or the representative from a command the player publishes results of a meeting at an official forum in a theme - http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php? topic=21013.0 without fail and at house forums – at will of captains of commands.
7.24 Results of game are published in a play log gull or screen kind to which the location and conditions of game and places occupied with players, and also result of game is underlined.
7.25 Received in tournament by a command points are summarized and reduced in Standings. The winner will recognized the command which has typed most of points.
7.26 In the event that two or more commands have typed identical quantity of points in Tournament, above in Standings there will be that at which the general difference of points all typed and lost by a command following the results of all games will be above. In case of an identical difference, above there will be that command at which in the column "-" points will be less.
7.27 Results of games after each round, the table of the locations ordered by commands and the intermediate table of tournament will be periodically published in a theme (http://www.kalassa.net/keskustelut/index.php? topic=21013.0) - in the form of total result of a meeting between commands.
Concerning the last game it is possible to show 7.28 Claims to a command – to the contender and to appeal in board of arbitrators within days after game.
7.29 Arbitrators of tournament collect together results of round and spread them at an official forum for convenience of the further calculation.
7.30 For gathering and processing of results of round arbitrators are appointed
1 ________________ 2 ___________ 3 _____________
7.31 At occurrence of disputable situations the full screen of a meeting and a play log gull is published.
7.32 Exit of the new version of game – we will finish tournament in the new version of game under nowadays confirmed regulations.
7.33 New lakes and types of games if they appear - In this tournament it is not played.
7.34 Replacements of players on a game course are not resolved.

8. PUNISHMENTS AND PENALTIES FOR INFRINGEMENT HAS IMPARTED ALSO TOURNAMENT REGULATIONS
8.1. Each command (player) can receive following penal sanctions for infringements of rules and tournament regulations in a kind:
8.1.1 Prevention (yellow or red cards)
8.1.2 Disqualification on 1, 2, games
8.1.3 Disqualification till the end of tournament.
8.2. The command (player) can be disqualified for:
8.2.1 Malicious infringement of regulations and tournament rules.
8.2.2 Open disobedience to fulfil requirements of the arbitrator in a game chat or in corresponding themes of forums.
8.2.3 If the player is not identified with a command (the screenshot and play log does not display an accessory to a command) its result is not set off.

9. TOURNAMENT AWARDS

9.1 For (commands)
1 place -
2 place -
3 place –

9.2 For (forums)
1 place -
2 place -
3 place - 

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« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2009, 22:56:27 »
Хорошо, на этом и остановимся.

Предлагаю капитанам команд в срок до 13 августа 2009 года представить списки игроков, которые будут участвовать в Большом Между форумном турнире "Осень - 2009". Напоминаю, максимальное количество игроков в команде 14. Начинить играть можно и с меньшим количеством, потом, по ходу турнира можно будет заявить еще игроков до 14.

 Написание ников в заявке допускается только на английском языке.
/Название и адрес домашнего форума/ "название команды". Colour of the form - №…
/адрес специально созданной для Турнира на домашнем форуме гостевой странички/
1. _________ - (The captain)
2. _________ - (The assistant to the captain)
3. _________
4. _________
5. _________
6. _________
7. _________
8. ________
9. ________
10. ________
11. ________
12. ________
13. ________
14. ________

Форма игроков команды должна быть единая.
Ник игрока - [Team] Nik должен быть отчетливо виден на скрине и в плейлоге (пример - [Balansir] Dimafan).

Well, thereon and will stop.

I offer to the captains of commands in time to August, 13, 2009 to present the lists of players which will participate in Large Between forums tournament "Autumn - 2009". I remind, maximal amount of players in a command 14. To stuff playing is possible and with less, then, on motion a tournament it is possible it will be to declare yet players to 14.

Writing nickname in the demand is supposed only in English
/ the name and the address of a house forum / "the command name". Color of the form - № …
/ the address specially created for Tournament in a house forum of a guest page /
1. _________ - (The captain)
2. _________ - (The assistant to the captain)
3. _________
4. _________
5. _________
6. _________
7. _________
8. ________
9. ________
10. ________
11. ________
12. ________
13. ________
14. ________

Form of players of the team should be uniform.
Nickname of the player - [Team] Nickname it should be clearly visible on a screen and in play log (an example - [Balansir] Dimafan).

 



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